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John ClareAbt 1776 -John Clare (about 1776 to ?) John is almost certainly the father of Thomas (born 1810) but there is no definitive proof. Just circumstantial evidence. I have traced the Clare line back to
John CLARE who was born in St Saviour, Southwark in about 1776 and, if correct, there
is a possibility that we could go back a further generation to a John CLEAR of
St Botolph, Bishopsgate, who would have been born about 1745. We know that John CLARE married Lucy (possibly Tyler) and was living at “Wood Yard” in 1814 and described as
a “labourer”. John and Lucy probably had
six children all born in Southwark :
The second of the two Mary’s
married John REEVES, a bone merchant from Coleshill, Warwickshire (1841), who
later became a butcher and they had six children. They lived in Lambeth and then Camberwell. Sarah married John MORRIS, a
printer compositer (1831) also from Southwark, and they had seven
children. They lived in Southwark and
then Lambeth. I have found no subsequent trace
of William, John or the first Mary. CONFIRMATION OF THOMAS CLARE’s PARENTAGE I needed to
determine who Thomas’ parents were. The
only possible hit on IGI was a Thomas CLARE baptised 1810 in Saint Mary
Magdalene, Bermondsey with parents John and Mary. Initially this seemed unlikely as on the censuses our Thomas consistently described his
birthplace as “St Saviours, Southwark” or “Southwark”. The two churches are within about a mile of
each other so it was possible this was our Thomas. There was, however, a Mary REEVES on the 1871 census living with her nephew, Thomas’s son Charles CLARE, who we know is our line. We also knew that one of the two Mary CLARE’s married a John REEVES in 1841. There are two almost identical Mary CLARE’s on the IGI, although the surname spelling is either different or has been transcribed wrongly : a) Birth of MARY CLARE on 8th November 1811 (baptism 9th February 1812) Saint Saviour, Southwark, with parents JOHN CLARE and LUCY b) Birth of MARY CLAIR on 27th January 1814 (baptism 20th March 1814) Saint Saviour, Southwark, with parents JOHN CLAIR and LUCY. If they are both Mary CLARE with the same parents, the most likely scenario is that the first Mary died and they named another daughter by the same name. However, I have not been able to trace a death between late 1811 and early 1814. Having posted the query on Rootschat a responder said that the 1814 baptism listing is unclear but Ancestry gives John’s occupation as “labourer” living at Wood Yard. Mary REEVES shows her ages on each census and these show her birth year to be either 1814 or 1815. This suggests the Mary born on 27th January 1814 is the one who was living with our Charles in 1871. Her death in the December quarter of 1878 shows her age as 64 which confirms this. We are still looking for the death of the first Mary between 1811 and 1814. We know from IGI that the parents
of Sarah and William (1804), John (1807) and Mary (1814) were John and Lucy, so
as long as we can prove that Mary (1814) was aunt to THOMAS’ son, Charles, Thomas’
parents must also be John & Lucy. Not simple this genealogy lark !
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